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The Dan and Dave System
Date: Dec 06 05
18 card flourishes explained with multi-angles and several bonus features.
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| Chris says: | (Score: 1) 928 days ago |
This DVD is the best around if you like cuts... no discussion
| Allan says: | (Score: 1) 928 days ago |
It's the best DVD by the best people if you're lookin' for original and visual cuts. Also includes aceprods and alot of funny clips, shortfilms, outtakes and more! I would recommend getting it from their own site, though. You get access to alot of bonus material, several tutorials and special forums.
| Scott says: | (Score: 1) 927 days ago |
SIMPLY THE BEST!!!
| fiddlingsteve says: | (Score: 1) 927 days ago |
The best DVD for experienced card handlers. The cuts are amazing and there is a lot of extra material. You should definitely own this if you are serious about manipulation.
| shuhpoopee says: | (Score: 1) 926 days ago |
pertaining to allan's comment. i wouldnt say that these moves are original, because they're not, some are variations and other people's moves. but i do agree that the material itself is certainly worth your while.
| Vinnie C. says: | (Score: 1) 926 days ago |
GREAT DVD, very well put together, beautiful editing and menu. And the moves rock my sox.
Great buy.
Great buy.
| Daren says: | (Score: 1) 922 days ago |
This DVD is Awesome ! the BEST DVD if u wanna learn some really cool cuts !
| Dead People All Over says: | (Score: 0) 922 days ago |
I'm gonna have to disagree with most people here and say this dvd is frustrating, at best. Sure, the moves are great, but the teaching and the angles are probably the worst I've ever seen. No, not impossible to learn from, but definitely could've been better. Plus, I had to go through an act of Congress to even FIND the dvd to buy it. The Dan and Dave website never had this dvd in their stock. How that's possible, I'm not sure. Most other websites didn't carry it either. Sheesh.
| Artwo says: | (Score: 0) 920 days ago |
Bloody amazing DVD with great cuts.
The teaching is fine, it just takes time. You get used to it.
But the Special Edition from www.dananddave.com.
The teaching is fine, it just takes time. You get used to it.
But the Special Edition from www.dananddave.com.
| Air_N_Sun says: | (Score: 0) 918 days ago |
I like the moves!
It is hard to see everything they're doing in just the 2 angles they show. I'd prefer if there was some verbal instruction too, on the werm especially. One thing that seems to help me is to view (the front angle especially) in a mirror. or to stand with my left shoulder to the screen and look over my shoulder to keep the right and left straight until I learn the basic moves.
It's definitely worth having if you're serious about XCM.
It is hard to see everything they're doing in just the 2 angles they show. I'd prefer if there was some verbal instruction too, on the werm especially. One thing that seems to help me is to view (the front angle especially) in a mirror. or to stand with my left shoulder to the screen and look over my shoulder to keep the right and left straight until I learn the basic moves.
It's definitely worth having if you're serious about XCM.
| TheEMan says: | (Score: 0) 914 days ago |
I totally Agree with Dead on that. very cool moves and stuff but an over the shoulder cam would be so much better, i mean some moves are pretty hard to learn as it is.
| Sean says: | (Score: -1) 907 days ago |
THE SYSTEM IS ACE, BUT THE CUTS ARE HARD!!
As someone who's learned a WHOLE LOT of flourishes from slowing down ppls vids, I didn't find it hard to learn from... Me and Scott learned all of the stuff in like 1/2 an hour...
If you're a beginner, don't get it, if you aren't, then do!!
A lot of ppl have bitched about the teaching just coz the stuff is too complicated and too hard for them...(not saying Dead is doing this, cos frankly, he owns!! :D)...
If anyone is a 'Systemer' on DnD, and want's an 'easyer-to-learn-from' tutorial for any oftrhe System stuff, PM me or scott and we'll see wat we can do... :)
[Sean]
As someone who's learned a WHOLE LOT of flourishes from slowing down ppls vids, I didn't find it hard to learn from... Me and Scott learned all of the stuff in like 1/2 an hour...
If you're a beginner, don't get it, if you aren't, then do!!
A lot of ppl have bitched about the teaching just coz the stuff is too complicated and too hard for them...(not saying Dead is doing this, cos frankly, he owns!! :D)...
If anyone is a 'Systemer' on DnD, and want's an 'easyer-to-learn-from' tutorial for any oftrhe System stuff, PM me or scott and we'll see wat we can do... :)
[Sean]
| pennywise says: | (Score: 0) 905 days ago |
This is simply the best flourish DVD on the market. It is loaded with tons of the coolest slickest looking cuts. With multiple viewing angles it is also easy to learn from.
| Kev H says: | (Score: 0) 904 days ago |
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Fast and to the point,
Slow and steady wins the race.
A definite must.
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Fast and to the point,
Slow and steady wins the race.
A definite must.
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| Ablaze says: | (Score: 0) 899 days ago |
I haven't got it yet, but it's on it's way to me, but still..I have to say this. None of the cuts in the system prewiew (except for the werm maybe) can actually be done on stage. So if you are a serious manipulator that wants to do XCM on stage all the time, is the system the right thing for you? Is spending months or a year to get all the cuts down fast and smooth worth it? Is this DVD not more for guys who just hang in their rooms and record videos? Isn't the only way to make a profit with the system moves to make the system DVD? That's to late for us guys, so I don't know, if someone can help me out it'd be cool.
| Jonas says: | (Score: 0) 896 days ago |
Dan and Dave performed a flourish act on stage with such cuts for magicians and were the only ones to get a standing ovation there.
For laymen, probably not. But they usually perform close up as far as I know.
For laymen, probably not. But they usually perform close up as far as I know.
| Ablaze says: | (Score: 0) 887 days ago |
Yeah two hand cuts are great close up.
| bhasbun says: | (Score: 0) 886 days ago |
I've seen Dave Buck perform live for Hooters chicks. This stuff DOES hit hard.
| Ablaze says: | (Score: 0) 883 days ago |
lol yeah, but was that on a stage? Because I know it rocks close up..:)
| Taylor says: | (Score: 0) 844 days ago |
Ah the 19 year old hostest at Hooters.... probably one of the reason's how I forgot Tivo 2 when dave show'd it to me..... heh :P
| bhasbun says: | (Score: 0) 844 days ago |
Heh she was hot. Her name was liz. I got a hug ;)
| 4jacks says: | (Score: 0) 720 days ago |
The Material on this DVD is absolutely astonishing, especially the first time you see it done correctly. The only dissapointment for me was finding out that there are no written or spoken instructions. Access the System Vault Forums on DnD is an absolute must have for ppl like me who have trouble learning by only watching.
Other than that, it has a LOT of material, and even some Great Bonus moves and better teaching in the extra features.
Other than that, it has a LOT of material, and even some Great Bonus moves and better teaching in the extra features.
| Cjones says: | (Score: 0) 704 days ago |
the best xcm dvd you could ever buy no questions, simply brilliant
| Ros says: | (Score: 0) 699 days ago |
Ima beginner on flourishes and have bought this dvd and the stuff is truly amazing. Even though I am new to the whole flourish thing I got to grips with this dvd really well. The 2 angles they use could maybe benifit with a third over the shoulder veiw other than that its AWSOME .
Ros
Ros
| supafly1982 says: | (Score: 0) 533 days ago |
Agreed with Ros on the angles, also i love this Dvd i got it for my B'day im sure it will take a long time for me to learn it all
5/5
5/5
| elemental conjurer says: | (Score: 0) 502 days ago |
omg. i have just got this dvd a few weeks ago and let me just say 6/5 rating. the bonuses are great, the flourishes are well taught. even the hardest cuts on the dvd are taught in a way where essentially any one could do them. i doubt i will ever become as fast as the buck twins but it gives me something to shoot for
| Jon Rice says: | (Score: 0) 501 days ago |
I think a bit hard to learn from (been spoiled with some good teaching over the years) but a fantastic DVD with great extras. It's something every flourisher should own.
J.
J.
| Fatal Ace Of Spades says: | (Score: 1) 496 days ago |
i like this dvd :)
| Michaelzomg says: | (Score: 0) 413 days ago |
Gets a five, easily. If the teaching is too hard, you bought this too early, and you're still new.
Helped me a lot, a few great ones here. I loved the molecule section as well as the outtakes. EASY 5.
Helped me a lot, a few great ones here. I loved the molecule section as well as the outtakes. EASY 5.
| Spider_Fingers says: | (Score: 0) 403 days ago |
The System is a great DVD, full of incredibly inventive new uses for existing moves, and several unique variations that make watching and learning from it a fantastic experience! As others have noted, the teaching is not the best (I prefer De'vo's style, mostly for the angles), but there is a reason why the cuts run on a loop. This DVD is not for the beginner, either. The cuts range from simple to this-close-to-impossible. The Werm is a really fun cut, simple once you get the idea and practice a bit. Overall, this is a good DVD to get after you have learnt several basic moves. I would reccomend Xtreme Beginnerz before this DVD, but I'm sure you could certainly buy them both at the same time and learn the moves in a choppy unison. The System will introduce the novice to ideas and concepts that you've never come close to imagining, and will definitely take your flourishing to the next level. 9/10
| ShoeMan says: | (Score: -1) 330 days ago |
if you want to learn cuts, buy this dvd, it's better then the trilogy i can tell you that much..
| RobinXCM says: | (Score: 0) 311 days ago |
nice dvd, alhough it doesnt teach the tricks but shows them REALLY SLOW. If you want to learn some fancy cuts, I think this dvd is worth buying.
But I really Hate the menus and couldnt find any eastereggs till now
But I really Hate the menus and couldnt find any eastereggs till now
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